# Floating origin breaks rendering when camera has a parent
**URL:** https://forum.babylonjs.com/t/floating-origin-breaks-rendering-when-camera-has-a-parent/60951
**Category:** Bugs
**Tags:** floating-origin
**Created:** [October 14, 2025, 3:24pm UTC](https://forum.babylonjs.com/t/floating-origin-breaks-rendering-when-camera-has-a-parent/60951 "2025-10-14T15:24:19Z")
**Posts on this page:** 8
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### Author:  [@CrashMaster](https://forum.babylonjs.com/u/CrashMaster)
#### Post date: [October 14, 2025, 3:24pm UTC](https://forum.babylonjs.com/t/floating-origin-breaks-rendering-when-camera-has-a-parent/60951/1 "2025-10-14T15:24:19Z")
Hey there!
I have been testing the new floating origin feature and found a problem when parenting the camera to another object (could be useful for a character/vehicle controller):
> **[Babylon.js Playground](https://playground.babylonjs.com/#N2CSHB)**
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> Babylon.js playground is a live editor for Babylon.js WebGL and WebGPU 3D scenes
Is there something missing in this PG to make it work?
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### Author:  [@CrashMaster](https://forum.babylonjs.com/u/CrashMaster)
#### Post date: [October 14, 2025, 4:41pm UTC](https://forum.babylonjs.com/t/floating-origin-breaks-rendering-when-camera-has-a-parent/60951/2 "2025-10-14T16:41:30Z")
I think changing `camera.position` to `camera.globalPosition` [here](https://github.com/BabylonJS/Babylon.js/blob/7ae79629ef9e742750ed3df2da4cde22d47e80ac/packages/dev/core/src/scene.ts#L4) should do the trick. I can make a PR if you want
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### Author:  [@Deltakosh](https://forum.babylonjs.com/u/Deltakosh)
#### Post date: [October 14, 2025, 4:58pm UTC](https://forum.babylonjs.com/t/floating-origin-breaks-rendering-when-camera-has-a-parent/60951/3 "2025-10-14T16:58:15Z")
cc @georgie
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### Author:  [@CrashMaster](https://forum.babylonjs.com/u/CrashMaster)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2025, 11:33am UTC](https://forum.babylonjs.com/t/floating-origin-breaks-rendering-when-camera-has-a-parent/60951/5 "2025-10-15T11:33:47Z")
I opened a PR for the fix:
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> Rationale: the previous version did not work when the camera had a parent
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> Tes…t with https://playground.babylonjs.com/#N2CSHB
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> see: https://forum.babylonjs.com/t/floating-origin-breaks-rendering-when-camera-has-a-parent/60951/3
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### Author:  [@georgie](https://forum.babylonjs.com/u/georgie)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2025, 1:47pm UTC](https://forum.babylonjs.com/t/floating-origin-breaks-rendering-when-camera-has-a-parent/60951/6 "2025-10-15T13:47:03Z")
thank you for testing the feature / identifying the bug / proposing a fix! adding comment to the PR 🙂
p.s. feature is still in development so there are other known limitations (such as shadows not rendering), I will continue to checkin fixes 🙂
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### Author:  [@CrashMaster](https://forum.babylonjs.com/u/CrashMaster)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2025, 2:16pm UTC](https://forum.babylonjs.com/t/floating-origin-breaks-rendering-when-camera-has-a-parent/60951/7 "2025-10-15T14:16:42Z")
Thank you for implementing the feature in the first place! I am very excited to use it instead of my ugly `translateEverythingNow` custom function used to translate the camera to the origin with the entire scene (which was not Havok friendly at all!)
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### Author:  [@georgie](https://forum.babylonjs.com/u/georgie)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2025, 9:25pm UTC](https://forum.babylonjs.com/t/floating-origin-breaks-rendering-when-camera-has-a-parent/60951/8 "2025-10-22T21:25:12Z")
@CrashMaster FYI I have an incoming change that moves FloatingOriginMode to engine instead of scene creation options.
To enable it, pass { useFloatingOriginMode: true } when creating engine.
And to enable in playground, override the createEngine function like this [Babylon.js Playground](https://playground.babylonjs.com/#Q15YF0)
I will make an announcement post as well once the PR is checked in
[FloatingOriginMode moved to engine; Fix matrix precision setter by georginahalpern · Pull Request #17334 · BabylonJS/Babylon.js](https://github.com/BabylonJS/Babylon.js/pull/17334/files)
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### Author:  [@CrashMaster](https://forum.babylonjs.com/u/CrashMaster)
#### Post date: [October 23, 2025, 7:05am UTC](https://forum.babylonjs.com/t/floating-origin-breaks-rendering-when-camera-has-a-parent/60951/9 "2025-10-23T07:05:16Z")
Thanks for the update, it’s good to see the feature is making progress 🙂