# Null scene metadata after loading vrm file

**URL:** <https://forum.babylonjs.com/t/null-scene-metadata-after-loading-vrm-file/48001>\
**Category:** Questions\
**Created:** [February 13, 2024, 1:39pm UTC](https://forum.babylonjs.com/t/null-scene-metadata-after-loading-vrm-file/48001 "2024-02-13T13:39:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 3\
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**Author:** ![toht-toht](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex024/user_avatar/forum.babylonjs.com/toht-toht/32/37770_2.png) [@toht-toht](https://forum.babylonjs.com/u/toht-toht)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2024, 1:39pm UTC](https://forum.babylonjs.com/t/null-scene-metadata-after-loading-vrm-file/48001/1 "2024-02-13T13:39:51Z")

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I tried the VRM sample called “Posing the VRM” and hit an issue where the scene.metadata is null after loading and I cannot get the vrmManagers. Is something missing from the vrm file?

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**Author:** ![RaananW](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex024/user_avatar/forum.babylonjs.com/raananw/32/28955_2.png) [@RaananW](https://forum.babylonjs.com/u/RaananW)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2024, 3:50pm UTC](https://forum.babylonjs.com/t/null-scene-metadata-after-loading-vrm-file/48001/2 "2024-02-13T15:50:06Z")

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The babylon VRM loader is a community project.  
It supports babylon 5, and seems to be ready to support 6.X, but it is not yet released ( [virtual-cast/babylon-vrm-loader: glTF VRM extension Loader for babylon.js (github.com)](https://github.com/virtual-cast/babylon-vrm-loader))  
There seems to be a few open issues on the repository, and it will be the best place to ask.

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**Author:** ![sebavan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex024/user_avatar/forum.babylonjs.com/sebavan/32/57_2.png) [@sebavan](https://forum.babylonjs.com/u/sebavan)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 7:56pm UTC](https://forum.babylonjs.com/t/null-scene-metadata-after-loading-vrm-file/48001/3 "2024-02-19T19:56:56Z")

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Maybe @il-m-yamagishi has an idea?