Hi kids. Here’s a big on-topic off-topic.
Myself and a close buddy (@gryff) recently bumped-onto the subject… of how neither of us understands the programming code or the “lingo” that is seen in BJS scenes/forum, lately. Both of us are somewhat storyteller and not so techno, but so what? Game-writers are often storytellers, so we fit right in… but we are both… not so deep tech… and more… “emotion”, perhaps.
Evolution is sure to happen, of course, but… we still have no/few girls working with BJS, and a seriously low amount of (any age) noobs.
Some folks have stated that “hey, all the old simple stuff STILL WORKS FINE”… but… that’s not really the point.
Bottom line is… we seem to have lost SOMETHING… some… beginner spirit… and we are certainly not any closer to having female BJS users. And where’s the kids? I mean REAL young kids. And the docs… 27 screens of text for Particles 101! (I mentioned this in another post, nearby). That’s not “101”… that’s a brain tumor. (no offense, docs-writers).
I have certainly ruffled some capitalist feathers among the Redmond crews in my time… but I could use a relocation rescue (no family), and I think BJS could use some “simplification”.
Ship me to Redmond, put me on payroll, and I’ll get BJS back into family-friendly mode in no time, and on-budget!
If you remember the old days, I was Mister Handhold… and I always gave 150%… especially to kids and girls! I still have the same playful simpleton spirit, but I can’t find the old BJS. Where did it go? (Can ya tell I need a rescue from Wisconsin? hint-beg-etc)
@gryff… (hi) - get in here (if you wish) and maybe summarize what you told me recently in PM. Something is different? Is it because we are both “Old VRML Guys?”
@dad72 - (hi) have YOU seen something change/drift? What made you drift-away, if you can explain it. (thx) You did some HUGE projects in the early days. Was it a lack of public popularity for those? (they were nice/powerful, btw)
@jerome - hi - see anything you can put into words? What changed?
ANYONE… if you have seen a type of “good ol’ days” leave BabylonJS… and perhaps you are sad to see it go… TALK… here… in this thread.
Me, personally, I felt I lost a best friend… when I could no longer paste code into playgrounds… from BJS max JS source. All that “webpack module” crap in the JS source… made paste’n’hack quite impossible.
How about @davrous? Where the heck is he? And Temechon? I miss those guys.
Yeah, things evolve… but… some kind of trail-blazing frontier “spirit” got lost along the way. It’s not something I imagined… others have seen it go, too. The docs seem too large, the forum posts seem “alien”, the magic… waning or gone. Was it inevitable? What happened?
Did we lose some simple? Some fun? I don’t think it was I that changed… I’m not smart enough to do much changing. Something changed in BJS… and/or in its playful spirit. Can we get it back somehow? The girl programmers seem further away than ever before. Why? Where’s the kids? (7-14 yr olds). Did something scare them away?
At first, @PirateJC seemed like he had “the spirit”… you know… “peeing his pants”-excited about 2 spotlights and a physics-active box. But then he got all deep and NME, and although he still acted excited and enthused, he lost touch with the simpletons/noobs.
What happened? Why can’t we all still join in the excitement of a noob’s first green box and spotlight? Did we all get “so what, dude”? - too big for our britches? I know that I got MOST EXCITED over seeing others get excited over stuff… ESP when they had a scene of their own… in under 2 minutes.
They got “erect nipples” ! A powerful feeling of accomplishment. And I got erect nipples because of THEIR erect nipples. (nothing dirty here… nipples are a clean thing - doctor terminology).
Remember that https://forum.babylonjs.com/t/why-damagedhelmet-so-great/ thread? We talked about that, there. Perhaps too many killer demos on BJS main web site… and soon noobs thought that they could never “measure up”?
I think that is somehow involved. A noob was embarrassed and felt out-of-place… getting excited/enthused about their green box and spotlight.
I remember how I felt each time a new killer demo hit the BJS main site. “I can NEVER be THAT good”… and it was true. My little simpleton demos could never be as good as “the helmet”. Is THAT what helped kill the spirit and enthusiasm (“thooze”) of the simpleton scene?
The “thooze”. (enthusiasm). What happened? @Deltakosh, your comments certainly welcome, too. All you guys… comment if you would, but ESP those who remember “the good ol’ days”… the early pioneers… The Temechon Days. What happened? Can we get it back? Do we want it back? (thx).